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​As I was finishing up my visits to physical therapy and was able to hobble around more on my feet, Teacher reminded me that now since I have received some donated monies from the climbing community, I can go out and purchase a movie camera and get going on making some movies. I still found this "pushing me to make movies thing" to be odd especially since making movies was not even on my to do list. So I went to a Best Buy store and purchased a camera. Teacher said that for the movies, all will be paid for and my job was just to create the movies. At first I did not know what to produce with filming and quickly found that making movies about my kids and home was not necessarily panning out as a interesting movie. So I continued to play around with the camera to get used to it. Also it gave me time to see how the Apple iMovie program worked for creating movies with. Making movies is quite time consuming, but I can see how my artistic talents could be applied within the iMovie program. But at this time my interest was more with the churches. I was psyched to study about God and increasing my knowledge about the Bible.
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Since I was born into the Roman Catholic Church being involved with the church in my early years of life, I figured it was best to start there with my searching for God. At first I was lost on what to do and when to do it during the masses, but I followed suit with what everybody else was doing. I visited many churches and talked to many Priests but over time I narrowed it down to two churches to attend regularly, which one was near my house in Phoenix and one was in Tempe. It was giving me a feeling that I was doing the right thing. I didn’t drag along my kids to the church but told them about the masses each time when I got home from the weekend service. I also felt like I was serving as a good example for my children so later in life if their lives started to go out of balance, they knew of how their dad found balance.


​Over time I gave my entire self to the Catholic church. I attended every weekend, I reread the Bible, I was tithing, I was the church.

​I really was enjoying being involved with a community of people that were all in attendance for God. But it seemed like the Catholic Church was transforming me not into something more loving, but a citizen within a church community that was heavily in a feel of control and was very judgmental to others. Maybe it was ego within me or something, but within my church pride I became the loudest singer, I was doing everything the way it “should” be done like staying on my knees in prayer during the times the mass required people to be on their knees. I was judging others of how they were acting in church, over, my perfect church mass performance. I became the crazy person that was standing on the street corner up on a milk crate yelling to the cars going by as I raised my “I know Jesus and you don’t” sign at everybody. I started feeling that I needed to find a different religion which would offer for me a better sense of balance. The Spirituality process for me is very important, but difficult as well. I already have within me a true love for Jesus, but I need to find truth which asks the question of -  Is spirituality the church? Or does spirituality go beyond the church?
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My Mom gave me the family Bible

During my revisit to the Catholic Church I was watching programs on the TBN TV network and the Hillsong TV network. The Christian ministers on those programs is where I learned the Bible from and the learning is still incredible. The Catholic church seemed to be a recycled same same small amount of teaching of the Bible which was all centered on the understanding of “if you don’t do things right you will go to hell.” If you have been saved by Jesus and then sin again you will be thrown out of the kingdom and will burn in the lake of fire.” No matter what “You are a sinner.” Yes the Bible teaches a lot about hell, but I was seeking for help in my life from the Bible, and this form of teaching was not giving me balance. The true fact of the Bible is that if you believe that Jesus is the savior, all of your sins will be forgiven and Jesus will never stop forgiving you after that. Jesus is not a take-back guy and stays true to his word. The miracle of Jesus is that once you become in a true relationship with Jesus, you will personally restructure your life of not wanting to do bad. It will feel out of place to do bad since a person becomes a New Creature/Reborn. Note: The Catholic Church does offer advanced Bible school programs in addition to its weekend mass schedule. A person can find a welcoming community belonging within church, and in science it is true that a heightened response to any subject can be measured within the act of people gathering together. I have the deepest respect for the Catholic Church.

To me the Christian churches are more exciting! The audience is responding to extended teachings by the priest. The southern Christian churches I totally love. Weekend mass does not feel like a required thing that has to be attended. It is something that I want to attend since it is so exciting!!! I feel that I am part of the mass experience and it fills me with extra energy. But every priest that I talked to and showed them my drawing of the eyeball sphere, none of them have ever seen anything that could help me explain where I was that day in the hospital. So I became the Indiana Jones of the Bible. With my orange atom Teachers assistance, I was finding keys and doorways written in the Bible that was giving me even more of a advanced teaching which was getting me closer to what I was searching for. I knew that one of these doorways was a direct path to God. Over time I wrote many notes and created personal writings filling 15 or more binders on my bookshelf, and I felt like I was studying for a college finals exam. I started seeing a pattern on how these writings would produce a resulting answer that came from the spirit world. Like a confirmation that I was on the correct path.
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My dad was a avid church follower from the day he was born to the day he died. Six months before my dad died he took me to the side and genuinely said that he truly believed that there is something greater that is going on with spirituality than what the Roman Catholic Church had told him and taught him his entire life. God is just as much outside of the church as God is inside the church.

Stephen Hawking, one of the greatest physicists of all times, had a program which he was asking the question, does God exist? For his final answer he stated that he could not prove the existence of God or even if everything that was created was created by the one, but for what us humans know and for what we can witness during humanities time, is that there is a universal order in which everything is within. We are not within complete chaos. Stephen then mentions that if there is one Big Bang that happened that created this universe, then it is also possible that there is unlimited Big Bangs that have happened creating unlimited universes.

My life was raising my kids, working a full time job at the rock gym, spiritual study, playing around with the movie camera, and I was returning to Blue Ridge Reservoir with friends to climb on the weekends. In January 2011 my now healed broken leg started to really hurt and I went back in for a surgery to remove the hardware that supported the broken femur. It was a simple surgery and I was back to walking again in a few days. I started filming the kids at the rock gym that were on the youth climbing team, named Team Thrashers, to produce a short film for their two year anniversary that was coming up in March. I started feeling that I found my subject of which to produce the movie that Teacher was insisting that I create. I was psyched to see where this movie creation was going to take me.
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Original Femur hardware removed from Marty's leg.
​The carabiner in the photo is for size comparison.

I now was studying buddhism and Hinduism adding more and more information to my personal theories about what is truth. I discovered that a different voice started talking to me that was teaching me about spirituality while I was meditating. This voice showed me that I could even learn more as I was sleeping at night. I became super intrigued with this sudden advanced learning and was thanking this unknown voice over and over. This voice showed me how to travel even more deeper into the doorways that I had found, and as I went to bed every night I was being taken to what I feel like was a school. There were two classes being taught: “Word School,” and “Manipulation Class.” Word school taught how to speak more clearer and how to properly “Listen.” “Manipulation Class taught how to steer away from or heal people that were manipulating me. When I woke up in the morning the mornings would be filled with talk about higher philosophy on all subjects. It is really fun! Then things changed. By late March 2011 It felt like the continual spiritual study was making me feel sick. Then things really changed even more.

For two weeks I had unusual night sweats occurring where on the last days I went through four days of being burned by a extreme fire. There is no other way to explain the occurrence except for that I was genuinely being burned every night for four consecutive days. I was in the presence of a divine energy that was greater than anything I have ever felt or I could even imagine. Each morning of those four days when I awoke, my bed was soaked to the point that it was like somebody poured buckets of water over top of me soaking the entire bed. I had to remove the sheets and everything so the mattress would dry off. I even placed a fan near the bed to dry out the mattress but yet the next night the same thing was repeated. I made an appointment and visited a doctor who said I was perfectly fine and in good health. No need for him to prescribe to me any medication or anything. Just 
intense night sweats that will eventually pass. In 2019 I was listening to a Matt Kahn YouTube segment where Matt explains the same occurrence happening to him. He went through three days of being entirely burned. As Matt spoke about the following days after the burning, I felt the exact same as he described. There was no other thought or feeling except for being in complete humility within the self. A depth of humility that was so extreme that it took days to process the feeling that filled the individual. From that point on I carry this self humility with me every day now. The way Matt describes the occurrence on his YouTube segment showing through his words of how intense this occurrence was, reminds me exactly of when I went through this burning as well. To me this was for sure a one and one meeting with the creator.
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This burning meeting changed the overall spiritual fabric that I thought I had, to being now guided by the creator on a whole new level. If I was to have five minutes to personally talk to Guru Matt Kahn, our conversation will be only about this burning moment. I needed to find God. It wasn’t the works that I was doing or the studying I was doing to be with God. It just came to a place in time where God truly reached out and touched me. When I think back about this occurrence I feel no ego within it. To this day there is no attachment of ego about this burning meeting at all. God simply reached out and touched me and I can’t explain it more since it is beyond anything I can describe. I am not happy that it happened nor am I sad. I am only with it “being.” In 2000 a spiritual healer named Virginia Drake contacted me and said she saw me in a vision. She said I was baptized within a form of fire. There it is, my conversation with the creator, and I can’t even remember one word of it. Were words even spoken? However I did notice that afterwards I still was seeking greater spiritual understanding, but my desperation of having to know, lessened. Except for the sphere of eyeballs. That was still on the priority list to research because I know whatever it was that I saw, it exists!!


​May 2011 I went by myself to Blue Ridge Reservoir and camped in my favorite spot, Eagle Point! I developed a few new boulder problems and stayed for a fun three days. But as I was packing up the canoe and leaving in the morning, I clearly heard a voice say, “DON’T COME BACK HERE ALONE.” This voice sounded for sure like a voice outside of me and it was not Teachers. It sounded like it came from somebody that was standing next to me. I looked around and nobody was there, so I went back to packing up the canoe and made no big deal of what was said, then headed back to my vehicle. What got to me was that I was having a good camping trip and that wordage was very out of place. I studied Blue Ridge Reservoir and found that right near the location where I was camping was where the last battle with the Apache Indians in Arizona occurred. But for that  battle it was a stand off where no shots were fired. The Apache Indians eventually surrendered. So I can’t say that I was approached by a dead Apache spirit or something like that.
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Once I got home from camping Glenn messaged me and mentioned that he was moving to Florida, and then out of the USA to Costa Rica. I started to feel like I blew it or something where Glenn was here with me, but I really didn’t ask him much about spirituality. Glenn met me for lunch and showed me a chart he created named, “The 7 Evolutanary Levels To Profound Selling."  He said that everybody is made up of a mix of many  Understandings that are within these levels. Glenn talked a lot about how massive each level really is. Seven Levels of Humanity where Level Eight is God. Showing that only 15% of humans presently on Earth are above Level three. Just 
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above Level three is the Awakening line which is shown in purple on the chart, which leads into Level 4. Level four is a level that reorganizes the entire individual. It flushes out the old manipulative self and changes it into a non-manipulative self that seeks a greater balance in its lifetime. The Bible names this Level four area: “Becoming a New Creature.” As a person enters this Level four, the energy felt is speeded up compared to the lower Manipulative levels that all humans are first born into. The majority of humans on earth are not strong enough mentally to be able to make it through the Level four process. People that go into the Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) program are told that after years of following the course and completing it, the people will experience spiritual Awakening. Spiritual Awakening is the result of 
making it through and surviving Level four. Level five is the Blessing and is quite Balanced. My friend is a Level 5 and I continually refer to her as a cheerleader. Level six is a Disciple or Teacher forming level. Level seven is a balanced Guru.
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- a explanation about levels

Glenn also informed me that a new Earth guide for me will be coming forward and she will have blonde hair. And that was it! Glenn and Lisa moved away. My world started to feel somewhat smaller. I started to feel alone or different than others since many people shift away from the spiritual questions that I was hoping to talk to them about. My personal observance is that people prefer to remain in the lower manipulative levels since it is already filling their soul with many adventures. The good and bad adventures that they are within are giving a sense of learning and provides a forward motion to life. This process is not necessarily a fulfillment of greater enlightenment, but more of a soul “gathering of experiences” life.

June 2011 I returned to Blue Ridge Reservoir for a solo three day camping and climbing adventure at Eagle Point. The first day I unpacked my canoe and set up camp and was excited to explore. I knew I needed to add a anchor to a existing climbing route that I established up on the top of the hillside. I did a lot of forest gardening that day because the trail was being blocked by some recent fallen trees, and was heavily grown in with weeds etc. It was a busy day of work, but was fun none the less. Back at camp in the evening I got my camp fire burning, and had a few fishing lines out in the water hoping to catch a few Trout for my next days lunch or dinner. Later in the evening I walked down to the waters edge to check my fishing lines and I noticed that suddenly I walked into a freezing pocket of air. It stopped me in my tracks because it was so cold. Then suddenly I felt somebody push me down to the ground. I didn’t just accidentally fall since I was standing still. I mean I was pushed backwards so hard that I went off of my two feet and fell completely on my ass. I was suddenly spellbound. I immediately reeled in my two fishing lines and started to hike back up the hill to my camp and then suddenly once again I felt somebody push me to the ground. This time I also heard a voice saying,” I TOLD YOU TO NEVER COME BACK HERE ALONE.” This was not a soft voice, it was a obvious voice that came in loud and clear.

Immediately I ran up to the camp and gathered up all of my gear and frantically threw everything into the canoe so I could get the hell out of there. It wasn’t just a few items to pack. I had coolers and a ton of climbing equipment, bouldering pads and shovels and rakes and just about everything including the kitchen sink. I didn’t even roll up the tent. It was just wadded together and jammed into the canoe. My body was losing energy as I was hastily running with supplies up and down the hill while wearing a headlamp to fill the canoe. I felt like I couldn’t get out of there faster! Even as I motored away from the camping areas shore, I could feel my body shaking from fear. It was now 11:00pm at night and I made it to my vehicle but still had to go through the process of loading everything off of the canoe and get the boat onto the truck and everything. The drive home took 2 1/2 hours and I did not even turn on the radio. I sat in silence the whole way home. I was really freaked out and scared. I was so scared that between June 2011 and June 2018, I only climbed outdoors maybe 10 times. I felt like I had become disconnected with Mother Nature. Soon afterwards I created a supplement guide to add to my already made guide to Blue Ridge. This Supplement shows the many additional climbs I added to Blue Ridge, so others could continue to adventure!
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My attention shifted to creating the movie that the spirit world asked for me to produce while I was in the hospital with the broken leg back in 2009. My subject was the youth climbing team at the Phoenix Rock Gym. From June 2011 to March 2012 I put over 700 hours into creating the movie which is titled “Living The Dream.” It was a amazing project and my orange atom Teacher guide was giving me a lot of help with putting it together. I followed the climbing team wherever they traveled to local competitions, to Regionals, to Divisionals, and to the Nationals climbing competitions. The camera was always in hand and was always rolling. Many fun comedy skits were designed into the movie with assistance from my friends Neo and Robert. We inspired the team kids as much as we could with the wearing of face paint, colored hair, wearing silly hats or sunglasses etc. The climbing kids were having a lot of fun being the talent within the filming. It also eased the nerves of the climbers who did their best in the competitions. To me it gave me a good insight on creating movies since my subject was the youth, and not necessarily the adults. It gave me a different way to raise my kids as well. Looking at life as being a continual adventure, over following only what society demands for a life to be patterned after. “Living the Dream” finalized being a two hour movie and was completed March 2012. At the end of the movie I included the wordage, “Thank you God for giving me the ability to create this awesome movie!” In March 2012 the Team Thrashers youth team’s name changed to “The Rock Phenoms.”
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Marty at the USA Youth Nationals

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NEO at the USA Youth Nationals

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Robert at the USA Youth Nationals

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Super climber - Sophia
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Marty at Divisionals
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Rock Phenoms sticker

I felt really proud that I completed the movie challenge that I was presented with from the spirit world. To me, the Living The Dream movie was a 4 1/2 star rated creation out of 5 stars. I felt like some of the movie segments were not needed to be in the movie and were only added for the kids as a fun reminder. The music  that the movie was created with I got mostly from my son James. They were fun songs that were being played on the radio stations at that time, and I did not have the rights to use the song material to allow the movie to be shared on YouTube etc. The Living The Dream movie was a gift to the kids and their parents for being on the team. Already I planned to create another movie with the youth climbing team, but shorten it down to one hour.
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Team Thrashers - Youth climbing team
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Living The Dream - DVD Movie Cover

What I was noticing is that throughout my spiritual training, there always seemed to reach a point that some final writing was asked for. Almost like each understanding lesson that I was researching required a final wrap up before I was able to move on to the next taught lesson. Presently I was digging further into the Levels chart that Glenn gave me. I didn’t want to just look and ponder his only 7 levels that it shows. I want to define all of the sub levels that are within the main numbered level, which would be 170 understandings per main numbered level. This was going to be a lot of work and basically will be impossible to do without Glenn’s assistance. Glenn was not going to just give me the answers as well. The work was all mine to figure out.

The secondary voice that was taking me to the schools at night started to change. Suggestions were being placed in my head to not assist other people. One day I was waiting within a line of people at the Apple Store with my kids, and a older lady who had a appointment showed up and was struggling with keeping her computer balanced with one hand while trying to open the door with the other. The voice which I could clearly hear said, “let her struggle.” “Don’t help her.” Nobody else was helping her so I hesitated, but eventually I got out of my seat and opened the door for her so she could get in. I asked Teacher about the voice and he said that he can’t help me with that but sees no others from where he was. There were a few other situations where this voice once again told me to not assist, or even to hurt others like stomping on a persons foot for fun etc. This is not my style to hurt anybody so I resisted and felt like I was being tested or something with this manipulation class learning stuff.

Then one morning in June 2012, I arrived early to the rock gym to course set a few new routes. I was the only person in the gym at that time. Within the first ten minutes of being at the gym suddenly I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I really was having trouble getting a breath so I sat down in hope that I could get calmer. I then started feeling like I was being choked and was going to pass out, but then suddenly I could see seven or more people figures in front of me with their hands and arms extended outward toward me. They were welcoming me back to the Source. They looked like people I knew, like relatives or something. I really didn’t know what was happening and I jumped to my feet and started to quickly pace around the gym to get some energy going in my body. My heart was beating out of control. I started shaking like I was having convulsions or something. Suddenly I heard Teacher yelling to me to “GO TO DAWN!!!!” GO TO DAWN NOW!!!! I first questioned, who is Dawn? The only Dawn I knew was the mom of a kid that was on the climbing team. I called my friend Jeremy who is the team coach and asked him that I needed Dawns phone number now. It was very important!!!! I need her number like now!!!! Luckily Dawn was home and was at her house which was only two miles away from the rock gym. Anxiety was in full control of me. I thought I was having a heart attack or something. I was beyond tears as I kept focused on just getting to Dawns house. Who cares if cars are in my way. Who cares if the traffic lights are red. Just get to Dawns house now!!!  I hastily drove over to see her and once on the front porch, I was shaking and trembling. Dawn answered the door and then immediately stepped outside and wrapped her arms around me to stop the shaking. She said that I had become ungrounded from the earth.

Once I stopped shaking she allowed me inside her house and started asking me questions. I told her that she wouldn’t believe me but I am having conversations with people from the spirit world. She immediately laughed then said that she has five guides that she talks to. Four guides from the Source and one guide from the Main Source. Just like Glenn, she was what I call a five guide. I have met Dawn before but never knew she was a spiritual healer. She said that somehow I have become ungrounded and must reconnect with the earth. “Start with adding more salt to my water and I must go see a Shaman man named John English.” She said if John won’t see me then she won’t see me anymore as well and for now, never return to her house. I was given John’s phone number and was back in my vehicle heading home. I arranged a time to meet with John which was four days later. I wish I could have visited him immediately, but he was busy. Those four days were quite a adventure. I didn’t go to work or leave the house. I was so scared, that I was having difficulty falling asleep. The Prana climbing banner on my living room wall kept opening up with a round spiral and I could see gentle clouds on the other side within the spiral. It felt like I could have simply stepped through this opening, and would have disappeared into a different unknown place. I just knew I had to survive for the four days and it became my mission to just survive. I was eating the salt and putting my hands into the dirt in my yard and doing everything to ground myself.

Ok right now I am going to interrupt this Marty Spiritual story. I feel as though I am totally psychotic!!! I hardly drink any alcohol. I am not on any pills, no acid, no drugs, no mushrooms no anything!!!! Occasionally I smoke some weed and at this 2012 time in life the weed is very low grade, in comparison to what is being offered in the legalized dispensaries today. I am a professional climber so I make sure I am keeping up with proper nutrition. But WTF!!!! (That stands for What the Fuck!!!! Just saying again!). I am ready to check myself into a hospital because something must be very wrong with me, with my brain or something. I thought spiritualism brought better balance to a individuals life. Being physically knocked down by something that is not there felt scary enough to me, but now being offered to come back to the Source when I still have a lot of time left in my life did not make sense to me. I am still shaking. I emailed Glenn and explained to him what was happening to me. His reply was that I was within the Awakening process. “KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND ALL WILL EVENTUALLY BALANCE OUT.” “YOU HAVE COME THIS FAR, SO WHY WOULD YOU GO BACK?” His words made me feel better, but I was still shaking. I really wanted to see this guy named John English….. but had to wait....and wait.

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